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		<title>By: Dilapidus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilapidus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 22:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dilapidus</title>
		<link>http://www.paleoelectronics.com/2009/04/a-game-changer-the-gibson-ga-20-rvt-initial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Dilapidus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by the way, if you don&#039;t think the Hot Rod/Blues Deluxes can sound great, maybe you are doing it wrong.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, if you don&#8217;t think the Hot Rod/Blues Deluxes can sound great, maybe you are doing it wrong.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Dilapidus</title>
		<link>http://www.paleoelectronics.com/2009/04/a-game-changer-the-gibson-ga-20-rvt-initial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Dilapidus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you like, but you seem to have missed the point.   This is the best sounding amp I&#039;ve ever owned by far and one of the best I&#039;ve ever heard.  Yeah it&#039;s got warts, but at 400 bucks you aren&#039;t going to come close anywhere.  I&#039;m sure Victoria&#039;s are great amps, but they &lt;em&gt;start&lt;/em&gt; at 4x what I paid.   If I had that kinda money, I&#039;d buy a TopHat, Jaguar or Matchless  (and would definitely try a Victoria).   My amp is not worth the 1k it originally retailed for because of the faults mentioned, but the sound is &lt;b&gt;magnificent&lt;/b&gt;.  Yes, darker than Fenders ( a definite plus in my book ).  

So to recap:  
Cons :

	Loud Pop going to standby
        Tremelo sound sucks


Pros :

	Unbelievably beautiful sound, rich and complex
	Very distinctive reverb.   Great sound and you don&#039;t sound like everyone else


Best of luck out there, I&#039;m still very happy with my amp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you like, but you seem to have missed the point.   This is the best sounding amp I&#8217;ve ever owned by far and one of the best I&#8217;ve ever heard.  Yeah it&#8217;s got warts, but at 400 bucks you aren&#8217;t going to come close anywhere.  I&#8217;m sure Victoria&#8217;s are great amps, but they <em>start</em> at 4x what I paid.   If I had that kinda money, I&#8217;d buy a TopHat, Jaguar or Matchless  (and would definitely try a Victoria).   My amp is not worth the 1k it originally retailed for because of the faults mentioned, but the sound is <b>magnificent</b>.  Yes, darker than Fenders ( a definite plus in my book ).  </p>
<p>So to recap:<br />
Cons :</p>
<p>	Loud Pop going to standby<br />
        Tremelo sound sucks</p>
<p>Pros :</p>
<p>	Unbelievably beautiful sound, rich and complex<br />
	Very distinctive reverb.   Great sound and you don&#8217;t sound like everyone else</p>
<p>Best of luck out there, I&#8217;m still very happy with my amp.</p>
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		<title>By: O</title>
		<link>http://www.paleoelectronics.com/2009/04/a-game-changer-the-gibson-ga-20-rvt-initial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holly sh*t. i will stay away from this amp. if you think the hotrod fenders sound good then holly sh*t.

this is both a terrible and a GREAT review!

the comparison to the horrible fender hotrods, the &quot;dark&quot; sound, the poor tremolo and the boast about getting such a good deal off ebay... all very very helpful.

i would never consider this amp based on the review and the comments that followed it.

if there is a Gibson amp out there for me then it will the name plate will say, &quot;Victoria&quot;  and not gibson.

Thank you Victoria amps for doing it right!

Shame on Gibson for not knowing when they had it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holly sh*t. i will stay away from this amp. if you think the hotrod fenders sound good then holly sh*t.</p>
<p>this is both a terrible and a GREAT review!</p>
<p>the comparison to the horrible fender hotrods, the &#8220;dark&#8221; sound, the poor tremolo and the boast about getting such a good deal off ebay&#8230; all very very helpful.</p>
<p>i would never consider this amp based on the review and the comments that followed it.</p>
<p>if there is a Gibson amp out there for me then it will the name plate will say, &#8220;Victoria&#8221;  and not gibson.</p>
<p>Thank you Victoria amps for doing it right!</p>
<p>Shame on Gibson for not knowing when they had it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually bought this amp new thinking it would be a little quieter than it is (everything sounds quieter in the amp booth), but i still LOVE IT!!!!! I mosty play at church, and it&#039;s really too loud of an amp for that setting, and i really didn&#039;t care for the sound quite as much as i thought i would. It sat in the corner for about a year and a half. But, unlike most people here, i took out the eminence and left it out using the speaker space to carry cables ect. I decided to try it through a Traynor 1x12 cab with a Celestion V-30. I frickin Fell in love!!!!

I decided to buy a Hot Plate to Help with the volume, but the Same day bought a 1951 Gibson GA-20. It sounds exactly like the new one, only at about 1/5 the volume and 1/3 the weight. So, i use it mainly now, but i mainly use the New one for gigging (what little i do of it). So now i have the option of either the Vintage or using the Hot Plate on the new one.

Oh well, some of you may hate that idea, but it works for me.  I do, however, agree about the trem. I never use it, and would much rather mod it. If any of you do that, let me know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually bought this amp new thinking it would be a little quieter than it is (everything sounds quieter in the amp booth), but i still LOVE IT!!!!! I mosty play at church, and it&#8217;s really too loud of an amp for that setting, and i really didn&#8217;t care for the sound quite as much as i thought i would. It sat in the corner for about a year and a half. But, unlike most people here, i took out the eminence and left it out using the speaker space to carry cables ect. I decided to try it through a Traynor 1&#215;12 cab with a Celestion V-30. I frickin Fell in love!!!!</p>
<p>I decided to buy a Hot Plate to Help with the volume, but the Same day bought a 1951 Gibson GA-20. It sounds exactly like the new one, only at about 1/5 the volume and 1/3 the weight. So, i use it mainly now, but i mainly use the New one for gigging (what little i do of it). So now i have the option of either the Vintage or using the Hot Plate on the new one.</p>
<p>Oh well, some of you may hate that idea, but it works for me.  I do, however, agree about the trem. I never use it, and would much rather mod it. If any of you do that, let me know</p>
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		<title>By: Dilapidus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilapidus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heya!  How you doing?  We seem to have a lot in common amp wise.

Very excited to hear you liked the change in speaker... I might get a ceramic in there just to keep it as smooth as possible.   I&#039;ll jack into one of the skylarks first and report back.

I&#039;ve got a lot of new stuff to post so come back in the next week or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya!  How you doing?  We seem to have a lot in common amp wise.</p>
<p>Very excited to hear you liked the change in speaker&#8230; I might get a ceramic in there just to keep it as smooth as possible.   I&#8217;ll jack into one of the skylarks first and report back.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a lot of new stuff to post so come back in the next week or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Epimacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Epimacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to read some other experiences with this amp. I&#039;m embarrassed to say how much I paid for mine off ebay- but let&#039;s just say I&#039;m extremely happy with what I paid for an amp of this quality.
I think that the Eminence Legend speaker sounded good, but being the tinkerer I am, I went ahead and swapped it out for a 25 watt Weber 12F150 (I even got the gold frame version to match the amp- and no, I don&#039;t have OCD). The speaker seems completely broken in now, and I consider it a significant upgrade. Slightly brighter (which is not such a bad thing for this amp), and better note definition with chord work when the amp is driven. Maybe a little less punchy than the Eminence, but still packs a wallop. The Weber has a smoother quality than the Eminence, which I really like.
Also put in some NOS tubes which changed the sound for the better, but not as much as the speaker change did. I have some matching Mazda 12ax7 tubes in V1 and V2, some Phillips and GE rounding out V3-V5. Matching Ken Rad (RCA made?) military version 6v6 in the power section.
I agree that the reverb sounds fairly good, but the tremolo is a bad joke. I generally don&#039;t use either much, although low volume finger picking type stuff sounds pretty sweet with just a little verb on it.
I also wasn&#039;t planning on buying another amp, but stumbled on a good deal and I&#039;m glad I didn&#039;t pass on the opportunity. This amp produces some very impressive sounds (when I hit the right notes) and is extremely versitile. I&#039;ll be using the Gibson GA20RVT for some recording that is ongoing- seems like it&#039;s perfectly suited for this application.
Nice to see your still posting good stuff on your site Dilapidus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to read some other experiences with this amp. I&#8217;m embarrassed to say how much I paid for mine off ebay- but let&#8217;s just say I&#8217;m extremely happy with what I paid for an amp of this quality.<br />
I think that the Eminence Legend speaker sounded good, but being the tinkerer I am, I went ahead and swapped it out for a 25 watt Weber 12F150 (I even got the gold frame version to match the amp- and no, I don&#8217;t have OCD). The speaker seems completely broken in now, and I consider it a significant upgrade. Slightly brighter (which is not such a bad thing for this amp), and better note definition with chord work when the amp is driven. Maybe a little less punchy than the Eminence, but still packs a wallop. The Weber has a smoother quality than the Eminence, which I really like.<br />
Also put in some NOS tubes which changed the sound for the better, but not as much as the speaker change did. I have some matching Mazda 12ax7 tubes in V1 and V2, some Phillips and GE rounding out V3-V5. Matching Ken Rad (RCA made?) military version 6v6 in the power section.<br />
I agree that the reverb sounds fairly good, but the tremolo is a bad joke. I generally don&#8217;t use either much, although low volume finger picking type stuff sounds pretty sweet with just a little verb on it.<br />
I also wasn&#8217;t planning on buying another amp, but stumbled on a good deal and I&#8217;m glad I didn&#8217;t pass on the opportunity. This amp produces some very impressive sounds (when I hit the right notes) and is extremely versitile. I&#8217;ll be using the Gibson GA20RVT for some recording that is ongoing- seems like it&#8217;s perfectly suited for this application.<br />
Nice to see your still posting good stuff on your site Dilapidus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.paleoelectronics.com/2009/04/a-game-changer-the-gibson-ga-20-rvt-initial-review/comment-page-1/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dilapidus,
Yea, I agree on the ceramic speaker, you can drive them harder and not ruin a $200+ speaker, I have a Weber Chicago in my Tweed Blues Jr. and a Weber Ferro-Max in my Peavey Classic 30, which all do the job just fine. I think Weber speakers does it right, they offer ceramic versions of their higher end Alnicos, again allowing you to push em harder without the anxiety. I have not tried any pedals in front of it yet, thought my Fulltone Fulldrive might be good, at least the boost portion of it. I still can&#039;t get over how big the sound is on this amp! PTP tag board construction is the way to go, usually, and in this case it it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dilapidus,<br />
Yea, I agree on the ceramic speaker, you can drive them harder and not ruin a $200+ speaker, I have a Weber Chicago in my Tweed Blues Jr. and a Weber Ferro-Max in my Peavey Classic 30, which all do the job just fine. I think Weber speakers does it right, they offer ceramic versions of their higher end Alnicos, again allowing you to push em harder without the anxiety. I have not tried any pedals in front of it yet, thought my Fulltone Fulldrive might be good, at least the boost portion of it. I still can&#8217;t get over how big the sound is on this amp! PTP tag board construction is the way to go, usually, and in this case it it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dilapidus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilapidus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom,

I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one who scored with this thing.    I think that this amp is the steal of the century and it wouldn&#039;t be without the tremolo f$#% up

I would guess that selling it would not be that big a deal since you didn&#039;t break the tremolo.  It just sucks by design.  I think that&#039;s why I got the deal I did, and Gibson&#039;s loss is my gain.  I don&#039;t really like Trem anyway.   You should at least hold value, if not jump as people realize what an amazing amp that is for the money.

I would love to go side by side with the Celestion, but I don&#039;t actually know much about the speaker I have.   I tend to prefer the sound of ceramic magnet speakers.

Keep checking back.  I will surely mod this thing at least for master volume and thanks for reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not the only one who scored with this thing.    I think that this amp is the steal of the century and it wouldn&#8217;t be without the tremolo f$#% up</p>
<p>I would guess that selling it would not be that big a deal since you didn&#8217;t break the tremolo.  It just sucks by design.  I think that&#8217;s why I got the deal I did, and Gibson&#8217;s loss is my gain.  I don&#8217;t really like Trem anyway.   You should at least hold value, if not jump as people realize what an amazing amp that is for the money.</p>
<p>I would love to go side by side with the Celestion, but I don&#8217;t actually know much about the speaker I have.   I tend to prefer the sound of ceramic magnet speakers.</p>
<p>Keep checking back.  I will surely mod this thing at least for master volume and thanks for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bought it last week on Craigslist. Heck of deal compared to some of the boutique amps out there...being that it does the chimey Matchless/Bad Cat tone so well. Agree with writer that it could use a master volume. The mod I did, was pay the extra at purchase from a local studio musician, who gave me the choice, the factory speaker or a Celestion Blue
Alnico, never having one, I popped for it!  Pissed that the tremolo is actually non functional from the factory it would seem, in that I can&#039;t really sell it like that, should I decide to.  Huge sound! I did a A-B comparison with my SF Princeton, there was none, the Gibson was double the volume, reminded me of the Fender Deluxe Reverb II I sold last year, probably because both have a cabinet much larger than they need, but that contributes to the resonance, and ultimately the volume. The mix channel is very sweet.  Only mod I will end up doing is getting a stomp box to switch between the three imputs for different tone and volumes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought it last week on Craigslist. Heck of deal compared to some of the boutique amps out there&#8230;being that it does the chimey Matchless/Bad Cat tone so well. Agree with writer that it could use a master volume. The mod I did, was pay the extra at purchase from a local studio musician, who gave me the choice, the factory speaker or a Celestion Blue<br />
Alnico, never having one, I popped for it!  Pissed that the tremolo is actually non functional from the factory it would seem, in that I can&#8217;t really sell it like that, should I decide to.  Huge sound! I did a A-B comparison with my SF Princeton, there was none, the Gibson was double the volume, reminded me of the Fender Deluxe Reverb II I sold last year, probably because both have a cabinet much larger than they need, but that contributes to the resonance, and ultimately the volume. The mix channel is very sweet.  Only mod I will end up doing is getting a stomp box to switch between the three imputs for different tone and volumes.</p>
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