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		<title>A Little Status</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 18:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dilapidus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I am failing to complete numerous tasks at once, I thought I would describe their status Amp Computer The problem here was banana cables.   At some point, the &#8216;Asshole Audiophile&#8217; community got a hold of banana connections and now it&#8217;s damn near impossible to get banana cables at a reasonable rate.   I wanted to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I am failing to complete numerous tasks at once, I thought I would describe their status</p>
<p><strong>Amp Computer</strong></p>
<p>The problem here was banana cables.   At some point, the &#8216;Asshole Audiophile&#8217; community got a hold of banana connections and now it&#8217;s damn near impossible to get banana cables at a reasonable rate.   I wanted to use banana cables instead of say, posts and alligator clips.    These guys :  <a title="Circuit Specialists" href="http://www.circuitspecialists.com/" target="_blank">Circuit Specialists</a> solved that for me.   I paid a buck and a quarter per 20&#8243; cable.  Woot!  Back on that soon, but the first two parts are in fab now!    I haven&#8217;t decided on the mounting system yet, Cheap boxes or panel/rackmount.   Tough call actually.</p>
<p><strong>Real McTube III</strong></p>
<p>This got some love yesterday.   The power circuit is done but not boxed yet.   I am going to box it separately from the foot pedal part because hey, it&#8217;s 140/12 power supply and it&#8217;s not like I&#8217;m gonna take it on the road.   I wired up the heater stuff, LED and footswitch yesterday and may take a crack at the signal today.   More on that heater circuit later, but these are the first two amp computer style components.</p>
<p><strong>Real McTube Calculations</strong></p>
<p>This is gonna take a while, I did the numbers and they worked out, but now I can&#8217;t find the book I used and describing this stuff is really painful.   I&#8217;m back into the Rider book but that is the most annoyingly pedagogical book I have ever read.   I&#8217;d love to find a good clean book on tubes, with our without the math but it must have full data sheet reading info</p>
<p><strong>SongBird</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve started buying parts and will rip the old stuff out of the chassis soon.   There may be some original Gibson Transformers on EBay soon.  Maybe I will recreate the Crestline in the amp computer style.  Maybe the 102C84 will get up there.  That would be ridiculously hard to find anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>Real McTube Calculations : Getting Started</title>
		<link>http://www.paleoelectronics.com/blog/2009/01/real-mctube-calculations-getting-started/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dilapidus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So.. with a transformer on the way, it&#8217;s time to start fooling with the calculations.   The article by Fred Nachbaur gives you a lot of info, but not a full analysis. I&#8217;m not gonna do a full analysis either, but I want to cover some of the basics, and then measure once we are built.   [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So.. with a transformer on the way, it&#8217;s time to start fooling with the calculations.   The article by Fred Nachbaur gives you a lot of info, but not a full analysis.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not gonna do a full analysis either, but I want to cover some of the basics, and then measure once we are built.   I&#8217;ve done some back of the envelope already and I&#8217;m pretty sure I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m doing.   <span id="more-108"></span></p>
<p><strong>12AX7</strong></p>
<p>The tube is 12AX7, a very popular pre-amp tube, so knowing how it sounds and how it used in a circuit will be very handy.   This is a dual triode.   It houses two triodes in one glass bottle.</p>
<p><strong>Power</strong></p>
<p>Each triode is rated for 1 watt of power.    Power is    P = VI, so we can draw that curve on the standard datasheet just to keep ourselves safe.    The datasheet shows voltages from 0 to 500 and currents (in mA) from 0 to 4.0.    All we need to do here is pick a number, do the math and plot the point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll start with 250 V for no reason at all and find the current that creates 1 watt of power.  Please see the datasheet below</p>
<p>1 W = 250 V  * I  -&gt;  I = 1/250 A = .004 A  = 4.0 mA.   Isn&#8217;t that handy?  Right at the top of the graph.  Wow, what luck!</p>
<p>Lets do some more</p>
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<th> Volts</th>
<th> mA</th>
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<td>250</td>
<td>4.00</td>
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<td>300</td>
<td>3.33</td>
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<td>350</td>
<td>2.86</td>
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<td>400</td>
<td>2.50</td>
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<td>450</td>
<td>2.22</td>
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<td>500</td>
<td>2.00</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
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<p>So just draw those points on the graph and connect them with lines to get a good idea of the safe ranges for this tube :</p>
<div id="attachment_110" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.paleoelectronics.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/12ax7-withpower.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-110" title="12ax7-withpower" src="http://www.paleoelectronics.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/12ax7-withpower-300x219.png" alt="12ax7 data sheet with max power curve" width="300" height="219" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">12ax7 data sheet with max power curve</p></div>
<p>Click on the sheet for a better picture, but there is no way we are gonna get close to the max power rating, it&#8217;s not even in charted territory.    Recall from the real McTube article that the max voltage is 140 V.    That would be over 7 mA of current and this is a stomp box meant to go in front of your amp.   I don&#8217;t think we need to worry.</p>
<p>Next up.. where on this chart are we?</p>
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